Comments on: XHTML is just data http://theryanking.com/entries/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/ Music and Technology, but NO TECHNO! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:12:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: l.m.orchard http://theryanking.com/entries/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/#comment-425 l.m.orchard Thu, 26 May 2005 14:31:34 +0000 http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/#comment-425 For what it's worth, the page and the site is a bit of a mess, but I tried implementing a sort of HTML/CSS/JS MVC system on the non-Flash version of fordvehicles.com which launched around last October. Check out this page: http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/focus/?v=html Play with the key features scroll strip and billboard, as well as the rollover expand/collapse promos. Then, if you view source, trudge through the mess, search for a DL tag with a class of "stripScroller". This little oasis of proto-microformat HTML, with its accompanying CSS and JS includes, is what I'm talking about. For what it’s worth, the page and the site is a bit of a mess, but I tried implementing a sort of HTML/CSS/JS MVC system on the non-Flash version of fordvehicles.com which launched around last October.

Check out this page:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/focus/?v=html

Play with the key features scroll strip and billboard, as well as the rollover expand/collapse promos. Then, if you view source, trudge through the mess, search for a DL tag with a class of “stripScroller”. This little oasis of proto-microformat HTML, with its accompanying CSS and JS includes, is what I’m talking about.

]]> By: ryan http://theryanking.com/entries/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/#comment-423 ryan Wed, 25 May 2005 14:46:25 +0000 http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/#comment-423 Tantek- I think data-centric is probably a more useful methodology, I was just trying to make the point that this is where the analogy breaks down and for this reason its tough to apply MVC concepts to XCJ. Tantek-
I think data-centric is probably a more useful methodology, I was just trying to make the point that this is where the analogy breaks down and for this reason its tough to apply MVC concepts to XCJ.

]]> By: Tantek http://theryanking.com/entries/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/#comment-421 Tantek Wed, 25 May 2005 10:15:36 +0000 http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2005/05/24/xhtml-is-just-data/#comment-421 Your continued analysis is correct. Regarding your Thought #2, the difference between MVC and XCJ being that one is code-centric, and the other, data-centric. Personally I think the data-centric model makes much more sense, since you care about your data lasting much longer than your code (people upgrade and abandone applications/os's all the time, while they care a lot about keeping their documents, their photos, their music, their *data*). On the whole XHTML is just data theme, check out the presentation "Can your website be your API", where Kevin and I drew many of the same data structure analogies that you did: http://tantek.com/presentations/20040928sdforumws/semantic-xhtml.html Tantek Your continued analysis is correct.

Regarding your Thought #2, the difference between MVC and XCJ being that one is code-centric, and the other, data-centric. Personally I think the data-centric model makes much more sense, since you care about your data lasting much longer than your code (people upgrade and abandone applications/os’s all the time, while they care a lot about keeping their documents, their photos, their music, their *data*).

On the whole XHTML is just data theme, check out the presentation “Can your website be your API”, where Kevin and I drew many of the same data structure analogies that you did:

http://tantek.com/presentations/20040928sdforumws/semantic-xhtml.html

Tantek

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